Internet Search Data Finds Unreported Side Effects

Here is a finding that will likely unnerve drugmakers. A team of researchers used search tools to review queries made by six million people over a 12-month period and were able to identify evidence of unreported side effects that were caused by interactions between drugs before they were detected by the FDA.

Specifically, the researchers used automated software to identify searches for info on the Paxil antidepressant, the Pravachol cholesterol drug or both pills during 2010. And they found evidence that the combination of these drugs caused high blood sugar. The study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Informatics Association (here is the abstract).

Two years ago, the researchers had previously culled adverse events reported by physicians to the FDA and found the risk of developing hyperglycemia was greater than the risk of hyperglycemia from taking either drug individually. The latest study was designed to access a faster way of gaining such insights.

"Historically, it's been really hard to detect synergistic effects of drug combinations that aren't necessarily side effects of any of the drugs alone," Russ Altman, a Stanford University professor of bioengineering, of genetics and of medicine, and co-author of the study, says in a statement.

The researchers first identified individual searches for the drugs and the calculated the odds that people in each group would search for hyperglycemia — or almost 80 of its symptoms or descriptive terms, such as "high blood sugar," "blurry vision," "frequent urination" or "dehydration."

They found that, among people who searched for Paxil, which has the chemical name paroxetine, about 5 percent also searched for hyperglycemia or a related phrase. For Pravachol, or pravastatin, the rate was below 4 percent. But for those who searched for both drugs - suggesting they used both pills - the search rate was 10 percent.

To verify the accuracy of their analysis, they examined 31 drug-drug interactions already known to cause hyperglycemia, and 31 interactions known to be safe. Overall, the drugs with known interactions led to more search queries on hyperglycemia.

"But the results also suggested that around 12 percent of users searching for drug combinations known to have no interactions also had an unusually high rate of hyperglycemia searches, which would lead researchers down dead ends if they pursued them," according to the Stanford statement.

The researchers believe that combining search history data with other sources of information — such as social media, patient support forums and information from medical records and doctors - will improve the false-positive rate.

"I believe patients are telling us lots of things about drugs, and we need to figure out ways to listen," says Altman. "This is just one way of listening and one application."

59 Comments

Mar 7, 2013 - 2:03pm
Ed,

Nice review. One thing -- This research was done in conjunction with MICROSOFT, not GOOGLE: "The Microsoft team developed automated tools for mining anonymized data from 82 million drug, symptom and condition searches performed by 6 million Internet users who had agreed, when they installed a Microsoft browser plugin, that the company could use their search history for research purposes."

So, your Dummy book may be better titled "Bing for Dummies"

Mar 7, 2013 - 2:20pm
Followup -- I just read the original research paper which says: "We analyzed the search logs of millions of consenting web users who opted to share search activities with Microsoft via the installation of a browser add-on, spanning a 12-month period of all of 2010 and comprising searches on Google, Bing, and Yahoo!."

I kinda thought Bing alone would not be used by enough people to yield any scientifically meaningful results :-)

Mar 7, 2013 - 2:43pm
Time for the FDA to put up a site where consumers can post side effects for the drugs they are prescribed. The site could ask for other meds they take, whether the event was reported to the dr., what foods were eaten, any supplements, etc. I bet there are a lot more side effects that are never reported.
Mar 7, 2013 - 2:58pm
Err, Nopharmfan, it already exists.

http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/HowToReport/ucm053074.htm

Become more informed and maybe you'll become more of a fan.

Mar 7, 2013 - 2:58pm
And I'm certain, there is no duplication, urban legend, misinformation, or error in the data. Afterall the side effects were so serious they caused the patient to rush to the internet to report them rather than a medical professional. C'mon this has the potential to cause more harm than good. Hearsay and rumor are not science.
Mar 7, 2013 - 3:05pm
If pharma were really about saving lives and preserving health, it would cheer this development.

I aagree with Nopharmafan - it's long overdue for the FDA to put up a site where consumers could post side effects (plus seeing what side effects others were having). With 100,000 people in the U.S. dying every year of prescription drug side effects, you'd think we'd be doubling down on this national tragedy.

Hi Pharmaguy,

Thanks for the note and point taken. I hoped the graphic would illustrate the larger point, but perhaps I should have viewed that differently. But thanks for the close read.

ed

Mar 7, 2013 - 3:10pm
Here is the actual Medwatch Form 3500. John, your expectations of this crowd are way too high.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medwatch/medwatch-online.htm

Mar 7, 2013 - 3:21pm
Nice try OII, but "the people" just want a place to bitch about their meds without actually including empirical data. After all many are probably taking the unregulated homeopathic "remedies" from their local shamans. That's what becomes of dumbing down science and sensationalizing anecdotes just to get views for advertizers on TV and blog sites.
Mar 7, 2013 - 4:38pm
OK Janet, let's talk about the "100,000 deaths due to prescription drugs" issue. Since you've got it all figured out, maybe you can decide which of the following evil products of the pharmaceutical industry to pull of the market first. Using statistics from the Archives of Internal Medicine 2007, 1752,

Insulin kills about 1750 people each year. Of course if you take it off the market, about half a million American type 1 diabetics will die within 12 months. What's your suggested date for withdrawing this drug?

Thaldomid and Revlimid kill a couple thousand more each year. But the average patient taking these drugs has a 16 month extension of freedom from multiple myeloma and dies 3 to 5 months later. How soon should it be pulled?

Interferon, which has been shown not only to reduced relapses but also to slow the rate of disability progression in MS, kills about 2000 each year. What decision will you make on behalf of the 300,000 patients with MS?

3500 or so deaths are attributed to Enbrel and Humira each year, drugs which delay disability progression and joint damage in patients with severe RA. What's your decision?

The anti-epilepsy drugs valproic acid, lamotrigine, and phenyltoin have about 500 deaths each attributed to them annually. What is your decision on behalf of the 2.2 million Americans with epilepsy, some of whom experience seizures hourly when off meds?

For extra Bonus Points, how will you handle privately owned swimming pools, which don't extend anybody's life or postpone disability, but are involved in about 700 drowning deaths each year?

Mar 7, 2013 - 5:00pm
Good cherry picking, John2. How about mentioning psychotropic drugs and the deaths due to them - forget lack of efficacy. Vioxx is gone, having done its damage. And the list goes on and on.

One of the great ironies is how hard pharma works to dilute any efforts to improve prescription drug safety labelling or strengthening the FDA's hand in this regard. Why oh why could this be?

We all remember PDUFA 2007 - all the safety improvement language stripped out at the eleventh hour. Wonder how that came about?

Mar 7, 2013 - 5:31pm
I think you need to familiarize yourself with the scientific literature instead of spouting sound bites you read on the internet. With the possible exception of vaccines, there is no area of greater discrepancy between the opinions of self-proclaimed internet experts and the results of controlled studies than that of anti-psychotic medications and mortality.

Long term antipsychotic use in schizophrenia reduces mortality risk: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19595447/ and lower risk of rehospitalization. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21362741/

Reduced risk of mortality with continued treatment with antipsychotics in schizophrenia http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23112292

Antipsychotics reduce mortality in schizophrenia; http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20923917

Antipsychotics associated with lower suicide and all cause mortality http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18327869

But go ahead and keep flailing away. You'll continue to be ignored as you have been in the past, because of your unwillingness to familiarize yourself with the data.

Mar 7, 2013 - 5:39pm
And in terms of "cherry picking", why don't you tell me exactly which drugs you would like to see removed from the market? Please provide an estimate of the net reduction in mortality that you expect from each withdrawal.
Mar 7, 2013 - 5:51pm
You are the one that mentioned removing drugs from the market. I am the one championing stronger prescription drug safety warnings and a strengthened FDA capacity to do this - things that your industry resists with all its might. Why is this, I repeat?
Mar 7, 2013 - 5:52pm
While you are at it, I suggest you read Robert Whitaker's book, "Anatomy of an Epidemic".
Mar 7, 2013 - 6:50pm
Janet, you said

"With 100,000 people in the U.S. dying every year of prescription drug side effects, you’d think we’d be doubling down on this national tragedy."

And when I listed some of the drugs that were responsible for these deaths and the consequences of taking them off the market, you responded that I was cherry picking, which would seem to imply that you believe there are other ones that should be taken off the market.

I'm glad we agree that the vast majority of the industry's products have a favorable risk/benefit ratio. I thought you were implying something different.

I'll pass on the book. I prefer the primary scientific literature to summaries written by people who present only the side of the story that supports their point of view. If I find myself in the mood for sensationalism and half-truths, I'll pick up a copy of the National Enquirer and read about Taylor Swift's plans to get a boob job.

Mar 7, 2013 - 6:56pm
Janet, can you hear me above the "crickets"? My niece, a research Phd, worked in the industry for just over five years. After numerous questions I had asked her she would only say this; "If the folks on my side of the industry knew what the folks on the "business" side are doing they would walk away like I did." I almost used the links provided by John2 until I saw the dot gov! It should be dot pharma, according to my relative!
Mar 7, 2013 - 7:16pm
I hear you loud and clear, Frank. Too many tragedies in my family and friends' families - deaths from the side effects of prescription drugs. Many of them were known by the pharms and hidden until - sigh - too many front page headlines pointed to the truth.

One can pick this or that article out of the scientific literature but the "little" problems of ghostwriting, paying big bucks to "opinion leaders" in medicine and the like make many of the journals little more than shills for industry. And, as for the FDA, thanks to pharma it is, sadly, a weak sister where prescription drug safety is concerned. Probably couldn't even get a warning label on thalidomide these days.

Good for your niece for walking away. Others do this as whistleblowers. I hope she found honest employment elsewhere.

Mar 7, 2013 - 7:36pm
Yup, UNIONS are horrible corruptions. That's why pharma is so good at what they do - no union for ethical scientists to challenge C-suite.

At some point, the next generation of kids, grandkids, nieces, nephews, neighbors and BFF will, out of necessity, need to take over the SCIENCE of medical research since 20 years of breaking apart the process of standing on the shoulders instead of stepping on the toes will heave people back 10,000 years to the hands of snake oil salesmen and shamans who will profit greatly from using the magic of internet technology to turn gossip and who-knows-what-else "data" into the next billion $$ thing that might only kill a couple hundred thousand.

Walking away to another "career" won't be an option. Neither will "whistleblowing" since that is NOT protected by the First Amendment or even internally at the FDA.

Mar 7, 2013 - 8:15pm
John, I hope you have a good 401K built up. They could shut down this industry tomorrow and I won't give a crap. Let them get their drugs from China, Ranbaxy, Nigeria or Swaziland. When they choke down their antipsychotic or whatever feel good pill of their choice, when they start coughing up blood, bile, phlegm or a chunk or two of lung, they should then call 1-800-WITCHDOCTOR, punch the keypad for all languages except english, then wait for a call back two weeks later after they have gone in and out of rigor mortis.

I GARONTEE you they will come crawling back on their hands and knees begging the OII and John2 to reopen our doors for business.

Mar 7, 2013 - 8:33pm
Janet I suggest you read Gray's Anatomy to find out where your synapses went.
Mar 7, 2013 - 9:38pm
OII, Talk about good!
Mar 7, 2013 - 9:52pm
OII, it seems to me that you have apoplexy. Pharma might want to make a drug for it as it is so good at disease mongering.
Mar 7, 2013 - 10:10pm
uh, John2 is parking cars and who knows what you're doing, OII.

So who's doing God's work inside Wall Street's b-tch?

Mar 8, 2013 - 2:23am
WE Need this website for immediate side effects and we need Law Enforcement autopsy information if the murderer in a murder suicide was on anesthetic amnesia causing dissociative psych meds when he/she killed his/her friends or family and then turned the gun on themselves.

Tell me the difference between Anesthetic amnesia causing stimulant antidepressants and Cocaine? or Alcohol? They act on the same receptors. The person acts drugged up and out of it and they have no emotional connections to anyone.

WE don't need an adverse side effects website we need the drugs taken off the market and drug reps out of the doctors offices. You are killing innocent people and destroying innocent families. Antidepressants don't bring out Manic Episodes. They cause Manic Episodes that last months.

Mar 8, 2013 - 6:52am
What stops companies who produce the products (or trade groups) from giving people coupons or other incentives for posting postive comments?

In the event of perceived negative comments what would prevent an enity or organization from taking steps to keep real or perceived negative information from surfacing?

Mar 8, 2013 - 8:07am
Once again Elle, no.

Whatever the self-appointed internet experts have been telling you, the overwhelming majority of studies have found that antidepressants reduce or have no effect on violence.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w15354

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21070110

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19422623

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19389333

Mar 8, 2013 - 8:43am
Actually Janet, thalidomide is on the market today as a very successful treatment for multiple myeloma. And it does have a big black box warning on the label.

As I suggested previously, if you want to be a pharma critic, it would be good to at least try to learn a few basic facts.

Mar 8, 2013 - 9:45am
Likewise, cyanide is an important commodity in gold and silver mining. Just because a bunch of people in India got a lungful a few years ago doesn't mean it should be outlawed.
Mar 8, 2013 - 9:54am
It would be great if the FDA form was more accessible to the average consumer or this area was staffed with friendly support to help them navigate.

It is good to bear in mind that the people that most need to report may be very ill. I like the idea of open reporting of side effects. The data could be assessed for what it is observational and may be the driver to take a closer look at a product generating a lot of complaints.

If in fact there was publication and reporting of all trials and this data was publicly available with de-identifiers etc in place perhaps some of these crisis could be solved before an intervention ever gets to market. http://www.ithinkwell.org/all-trials-all-trials-registered-all-results-reported

Mar 8, 2013 - 10:08am
John2: Nicely done. You are the only poster here (other than myself) I have seen actually address a point properly, poignantly and with legitimate, working links and with appropriate n-values. Kudos!

PS: do you *really* just park cars? What happened?

Mar 8, 2013 - 10:12am
John2: PS: Is your swimming pool quote of 700 deaths above true? I'm thinking about quoting you on that.
Mar 8, 2013 - 10:14am
OIIIAI, the term is p-values, not n-values, as in probability function as a test for statistical significance. However you were only two letters off in the alphabet so you get partial credit. However I can't find any of your "legitimate working links". Point them out to me that you have created them so that you can return to me my book "PC's for Dummies".

Kudos as well.

Mar 8, 2013 - 10:19am
Most consumers have a tough time using or knowing about FDA's adverse event reporting systems. Several of us filed a petition (denied) with the FDA for them to try a trial of (with patient permission) asking patients of selected high-risk and new drugs whether they'd participate in follow-up e-mail/robo call surveys on the efficacy, good and bad, of the drug. Given FDA resources (and the sequester) this would have to be very automated, and structured to discount the 'suggestive' effect of the call/e-mail. But if the FDA started to see disproportionate troubling responses, it would know where to dig and check out particular hot spots.

Anyway, the current passive system will always be behind the 8-ball. Private pollsters and marketers show what is possible in outreach, and the FDA should be doing some thinking and trials along these lines in this age of instant communication.

Mar 8, 2013 - 10:25am
Maybe 700 drowning deaths/year in private pools. I want to see the reference too. Maybe the number is real, since all of the safeguards installed in public pools as the result of the John Edwards swimming pool disembowelment case have made it practically impossible to drown yourself in a public pool these days.

http://www.monkeytime.org/lakey.html

LadyG Mar 8, 2013 - 11:14am
Ha, way to go, Google! So, a quick hack of an automated version of the FDA actually works better than the real thing? :)
Mar 8, 2013 - 12:15pm
OII: No, idiot I meant n-value.

FYI, an n-value refers to the *NUMBER* of subjects in the study. If you remember, MCRPH loves to refer to studies with about 20 volunteers (ie, n=20) and call it conclusive.

Of course you never clicked on my links...they werent for youtube.

Mar 8, 2013 - 12:16pm
FDA's reporting system is 1-800-medwatch.

Anyone cal call to report anything.

Mar 8, 2013 - 1:00pm
Is idiot really still here? The one who attempted to correlate a study that compared different doses of simvastatin to her theories on Crestor? Sorry honey, you never addressed that point properly.

http://www.pharmalot.com/2013/01/and-now-for-some-more-pharma-layoffs/#comments

By the way most people just use "n" when refering to sample size. "N-value" comes up more when referring to a work hardening exponent.

Come on girlfriend - what do you do for a living? We are dying to know.

Mar 8, 2013 - 1:44pm
With all my sisters around I feel we should be blogging from Shawshank Prison. Dare I throw out the term correlation coefficient? But then I would be introducing another lower case letter the r-value. Not only would that make too many letters for OIIIAI to keep straight, an r- value for a study with an n of 20 would be close to, if not actually zero, that is UTTERLY MEANINGLESS.
Mar 8, 2013 - 1:51pm
I’d hazard a guess that English is not idiot’s first language, or she is a typical millennial that is slowly reverting to caveman-speak. Another vote for millennial would be the exaggerated self-importance, for example trying to list the Medwatch phone number (that btw was in the link from post 4). Here in the US the phone # format is 1-800-FDA-1088. 1-800-med-watch is too many digits doofus.

On another note here is a tip for millennial job applicants: when I see a bunch of “u” for you and “r’s” for are in your cover letter and your email address is pharmagoddess@xyz your stuff goes right into the trash.

Mar 8, 2013 - 2:37pm
Is the MCRPH idiot really still here? The one who attempted to correlate a study with 20 volunteers as conclusive proof?? Sorry honey, you never addressed THAT point properly.

MCRPH-IDIOT SAID: "By the way most people just use “n” when refering to sample size. “N-value” comes up more when referring to a work hardening exponent."

Ooooh wo000w. Now you're a statistician too, huh?

I wonder how the pharma industry could have ever let a "peach" like you go.....Oh wait,,,, werent you "downsized?"

Mar 8, 2013 - 2:39pm
OIIIAI "Not only would that make too many letters for OIIIAI to keep straight, an r- value for a study with an n of 20 would be close to, if not actually zero, that is UTTERLY MEANINGLESS."

That's the point I already made, IDIOT.

"LMFAO HAHAHAHAHHA"

Mar 8, 2013 - 2:45pm
oh shoot! the MC RPH sans-pharmd-statistician-wanna-be is actually right for once.

the number is 1-800-FDA-1088. :)

Mar 8, 2013 - 3:51pm
MC, the only reason I can fathom that you are even interviewing millenials in the first place is to satisfy some HR requirement. That you even print out their resumes poses an additional burden on the janitorial staff to have to dispose of them. So save a few trees and hit the delete key when a resume comes in from anybody under 30.
Mar 8, 2013 - 5:39pm
Idiot: I'm not a statistician but I speak like I come from the US. I also know how many digits are in a phone number.

I used a study with an n of 20 to support my opinion - didn't say it was conclusive. Still waiting for your proof that hydrocodone has less abuse potential than oxycodone or are you still waiting for the DEA to help you? You can work to switch the oxy junkies to hydro and trumpet that you cured drug addiction.

What is that you do again? Still too fearful to answer, eh? Not surprising girlfriend.

Mar 8, 2013 - 6:03pm
MCRPHIAI: Hm, I have never been told that my grammar is poor. I'll take it to heart especially coming from a pharmacist with a bachelor's degree.

Since you insist in living in the past and are apparent unable to read English: I have already answered that in a previous thread. I even pasted the answer in *several places* within that thread!!!! one is a C3 the other is a C2. Different schedules for different compounds with different safety/abuse potentials. If you dont like the different scheduling, take it up with the DEA.

A study with n=20 is _literally useless_ when you are suggesting changing the scheduling of a drug that has been around for as long as you have been alive. I would expect a 1st year nursing student to know that

MCRPH: all kidding aside, you sound mentally unstable and possibly illiterate.

Are you off of your own meds?

Mar 8, 2013 - 6:11pm
MCRPHIAI: "I’m not a statistician but I speak like I come from the US"

You are not a statistician?? NO KIDDING????

Mar 8, 2013 - 6:15pm
Idiot:

Help me understand this: both plain oxycodone and oxycodone/apap are CII. plain hydrocodone is CII while hydrocodone combination products with less than 15mg are CIII. Does the apap in Vicodin make the hydrocodone less likely to be abused? THIS MAKES NO SENSE AND IS UNSCIENTIFIC.

Still afraid to tell us what you do?

Oh, did you hear that 2nd generation statins cure pancreatic cancer?

More info. available by calling here: 1-800-2ndgenerationstatinscurepancreaticcancer

Mar 8, 2013 - 6:56pm
I'm not a statistician either. I just play one on TV.

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