Researchers Duel Over Chantix And Heart Risks

A spat has broken out among researchers over the extent to which the controversial Chantix quit-smoking pill is linked to cardiovascular risks. A meta-analysis that was published last week in BMJ found the drug, which is sold by Pfizer, does not increase the risk of heart attacks and strokes. The results contrast with a meta-analysis published last year that maintained Chantix does increase heart risks, a conclusion the authors of the latest study labeled "misleading."

The dispute centers on varying approaches to pursuing a meta-analysis which, of course, combines the results of several studies to test a hypothesis. Beyond disagreements over methodology, however, the clash is certain to extend the wider safety debate over Chantix, which has also been blamed for suicidal and hostile behaviors, although the FDA maintains that studies show the benefits outweigh the risks (see here and here).

Safety concerns, you may recall, have plagued Chantix almost since the pill was approved in 2006 and, consequently, have frustrated Pfizer, which had high hopes the drug would generate impressive sales. Instead, a stream of media stories about psychiatric and cardiovascular side effects have dampened expectations. In the first quarter of this year, Chantix generated just $178 million, a 10.5 percent drop from a year earlier (see page 36 here).

The cardiovascular concerns were highlighted last year when the FDA added a warning on the product labeling about an association with a small, but increased risk of cardiovascular adverse events in patients with cardiovascular disease (read here). But the issue accelerated when a meta-analysis published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal found Chantix was associated with a 72 percent increased risk of serious adverse cardiovascular risks in smokers without a history of heart disease (look here).

The results of that study, which examined 8,216 patients in 14 trials, is what prompted researchers at the University of California, San Francisco, to conduct their own meta-analysis. In their view, the numbers simply did not add up. And when they finished reviewing 22 trials with 9,232 patients, they found a difference in risk of serious cardiovascular events was 0.27 percent between those on Chantix or a placebo, which was not clinically or statistically significant (here is the BMJ study).

"What caught my eye was that, in their very first study, they found one (CV) event in 400 people and the placebo was 0 out of 200," says lead author Judith Prochaska, an associate psychiatry professor at the University of California, San Francisco, and a researcher with the Center for Tobacco Control Research and Education. She notes she has also won an “investigator-initiated research award” from Pfizer that has been applied to this Chantix trial.

"There were twice as many subjects on Chantix and there was a difference of only one event. The calculated statistics for the study was 4.5, or 4.5 times greater risk and that's alarming. But the statistic they were using was unstable and inflates findings under certain conditions. And there were eight studies (in the CMAJ analysis) that were like that," she says, adding that there were other methodological issues that account for the different findings.

For instance, the CMAJ analysis excluded eight trials with nearly 1,600 tobacco users who were randomized to Chantix or placebo that did not have any serious cardiovascular events. And the CMAJ analysis examined events that occurred during the complete length of the Chantix trials, some of which lasted up to a year. Prochaska examined events only up to 30 days after a patient stopped using the pill in the belief the drug remains in the body for seven days after usage ends. And 13 of the 14 studies in the CMAJ analysis experienced greater attrition in the placebo group than in the test group, which she says could inflate the treatment effect.

The lead author of the CMAJ meta-analysis, however, contends the latest meta-analysis is off base. "I think there should be scientific debate about the best methodology,"Sonal Singh, an assistant professor of medicine at Johns Hopkings University, tells us. "I don’t think their study is misleading. There are just two different approaches to looking at the data. But I’m disappointed in the tone. But they needed media attention" (here is the UCSF press release that uses the word 'misleading' to describe his meta-analysis).

Singh noted that his meta-analysis examined patients through the duration of the Chantix trials because what remains unknown is the the length of time that a heart risk may appear after treatment ends. "We were learning from the Vioxx issues. With Vioxx, heart risks didn’t climb until long after people were taken off the drug. She assumes the potential CV risk is due to direct effect of the drug being in the body, so when the drug is out the risk should go away. I’m making a very different assumption. I don’t know how the drug is increasing heart risk, so I’ll count data through the end of a study and some lasted up to a year," he says. "Which world do you live in? She’s assuming she knows how the drug causes CV risks and I’m assuming I don’t know. And those are the kinds of studies that are needed."

In a response to BMJ, Singh and a colleague who worked on the CMAJ meta-analysis, Yoon Loke of University of East Anglia in the UK, write the journal that the review conducted by the UCSF researchers "has limitations in data, analysis and interpretation which raises doubts about the veracity of their conclusions." And they cites these points...

Prochuska and her colleague excluded a number of cardiovascular adverse events from the Chantix arms of the clinical trials that have been reported. He also says they analyzed data by treatment level, which would allow exclusion of events occurring in randomized patients. "In contrast, we adhered to the intention-to-treat (ITT) analysis in accordance with FDA regulations and established and generally accepted scientific principles," they write.

From there, they say the UCSF researchers "recommend risk difference as the most appropriate model." However, he maintains "most regulatory meta-analysis of safety risks, including our meta-analysis, are conducted on the relative scale." And they claims the models used by Prochuska "are statistically underpowered at low event rates, and bias their estimates towards the null" hypothesis. Finally, they say there was a failure to provide info on the optimal information size or the power of the meta-analysis (here is his letter to BMJ).

"There is a simple explanation why this study could not detect a difference in cardiovascular risk. Because of a weak design it was unable to detect any effect on anything," Thomas Moore, a senior scientist with the Institute for Safe Medication Practices and who serves as a consulting expert in the civil litigation regarding Chantix, writes us in an e-mail. "It would be a serious scientific error to make a safety claim based on a study that did not disprove the null hypothesis." He also co-authored a study with Singh that concluded Chantix is not suitable for first-line use (see this).

As for Prochaska, she dismisses the criticism as well as concerns that her findings were colored by her support from Pfizer. She maintains that she did began the meta-analysis before starting the research sponsored by Pfizer, which takes place in a hospital setting, because she did not want to put patients at risk. "It's unfortunate that anyone would throw away all the math we've done" for that reason, she says.

"This is the first time I've ever taken Pfizer funds. And this study is an idea I put forward. I have five other grants funded by NIH, the state of California. I don't feel any need that I have to take money from pharm. There are a lot of top scientists who do partnerships with pharma. It's not always sinister. And Pfizer had no oversight of this. There was no prior publication review and it was a completely independent analysis. It comes down to the math. We used the same method as Singh to identify studies and code events, and this shows in a very straightforward way why the statistics they chose were inappropriate."

43 Comments

May 11, 2012 - 10:21am
Nice job of covering the issues Ed. One minor point that I might have added here is that not only has Dr. Moore published articles critical of Chantix in the past, he has co-authored at least one such paper with Dr. Singh. As such, he might not have been the best choice of an outside expert to interview on this topic.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=singh-s%20moore-thomas

Hi John,

Thanks for the note. I actually have a link to the item I ran last November about that study, and a link to that study is embedded in that item. However, I should have gone a step further and noted he and Singh were co-authors. So I have added those few words and hope that it is now clear.

Appreciate the assist. Ed

So the lead author Judith Prochaska notes that she has also won an “investigator-initiated research award” from Pfizer that has been applied to this Chantix trial.

Quelle surprise . . .

May 11, 2012 - 1:22pm
Sonal Singh is controversial. As far as I can tell he chooses his methods based on getting the most sensational result in order to get publication. He argues that relative measures of effect are appropriate because regulatory agencies use them. Because people use them, doesn't make them correct. Most people use relative measures of effect because you can get them out of studies that generate odds ratios and can't get absolute risk. However, they are probably the least informative measure of effect you can use because they don't actually allow you to contextualize the risk in any meaningful way (e.g., you can't generate number needed to harm, you can't compare multiple risks, you can't effectively compare risks against benefits). While one can argue that someone who has received funding from Pfizer may have bias, it doesn't mean that he is without bias himself. But nobody wants to critically examine the data independently and I'm disappointed that Ed here doesn't want someone independent to look at this. I think the truth is somewhere between, but I generally hate meta-analyses because you can apply the tool incorrectly very easily and as far as I've seen Sonal Singh may publish the worst of the bunch.
May 11, 2012 - 2:14pm
Carolyn, I agree that it is an issue that the BMJ article author received funding from PFE.

But as I have noted many times, conflicts of interest can have many sources. The 98% of papers listed in Retraction Watch that had no industry funding supports the idea that academic careerism and the eternal struggle to get grants is sufficient COI to induce outright fabrication of data, let alone bias. I don't think the issue is as simple as suggesting that that one of these authors has a COI, and the other does not.

What I find telling is that Dr. Singh wrote an article that concluded that very widely used drug confers a high level of scientific risk, and in spite of the importance of the subject matter, was unable to get this paper published in a first tier journal. This suggests to me that his analysis was rejected by the referees at higher quality journals such as BMJ.

May 11, 2012 - 2:16pm
Sorry, cardiovascular risk, not "scientific risk".
May 11, 2012 - 2:42pm
John,

Thanks for your post. I believe that you have hit upon important points in this debate.

May 11, 2012 - 3:32pm
A classic from Thomas Moore, "....Because of a weak design it was unable to detect any effect on anything...”
smoking itself has severe casdiovascular risk so I don't see why you would not expect for the some of the Chandix patients to have cardiovasular risks?
May 11, 2012 - 4:20pm
Singh is only slightly more credible than Furberg and Moore. From what I can tell, Singh is the only one of that trio that isn't paid by trial lawyers to create data intended for litigation. But he is working with Furberg a lot, including on this analysis.
May 11, 2012 - 4:49pm
Both papers computed Mantel Haenszel odds ratios that allow direct comparison. Singh et al. report OR=1.67, (95%CI 1.06-2.64). Prochaska and Hilton report OR=1.41 (95% CI 0.82-2.42). These estimates are virtually identical, with both studies indicating about a 50% increased CV risk with confidence intervals extended from essentially no increased risk to about a 2.5 fold increased risk. Only a misunderstanding of statistical significance could make these studies appear discrepant.
May 11, 2012 - 5:41pm
SuzieQ, you miss the point about what the odds ratios mean. Odds ratios are an awful measure of effect since they don't contextualize what the baseline risk was to start with. Who cares if they are statistically significant or not. The reason that meta analysis is attractive to a lot of people is that it allows them to meet the holy grail of a statistically significant (even if not clinically significant) results. Put it this way, if I took a look at a bunch of studies and they all had ORs of 1.2 - 1.8, none statistically significant and I did a meta-analysis and got a statistically significant 1.5, would I draw any new conclusion? i hope not. So I agree, these results aren't terribly discrepant. But what I would say is that the odds ratio, which Singh loves because it gives him a flashy result, isn't very meaningful if the underlying risk is very small. The risk difference is much more meaningful and can be inverted to generate the number needed to harm. But, what I would say is evident is that the method that Singh used, excluding studies which don't have events (like the Nissen analyses of Avandia (which has all sorts of conflicts of interest not all spelled out by Nissen) clearly biases the estimate away from null ("hey, ma, let me cook the books in my favor by using a method that will give me a stronger association"). I sure hope a good practicing physician is more interested in how many people he'd have to treat to generate an event (or gain benefit) than how many fold increase some risk might be (i.e., doubling a risk of an event that happens 1 in a million and something that happens 1 in 10 is a vastly different proposition). Singh, as far as I can tell, is looking to boost his career more than finding out the truth.
May 11, 2012 - 11:56pm
Suzie, I think you have a point, but the biggest concern with Singh's work is that he then took his OR of 1.5 and multiplied it by the baseline risk of smokers with a history of cardiovascular disease to get a NNH of 21 for serious cardiovascular events. He then sent out press releases in which he stated that this NNH was applicable to smokers without a history of CV disease.

If a pharmaceutical company did that sort of slight of hand in promoting a drug, they would become a topic of one of Ed's columns.

Also, while realizing that it is just a formalism, a 95% C.I. that includes 1.0 is not statistically significant. At least that's the convention that the FDA holds companies to that are trying to get drugs approved.

May 12, 2012 - 7:09pm
As a layperson, these are all interesting points. And the BMJ article's research may be great, but why did she take the Pfizer money?...for many of us it will forever make the research suspicious. Was the Pfizer money worth the unease it causes many of us who have become so jaded by all the documented influence peddling that goes with these industry gifts?
terri May 14, 2012 - 11:59am
I start to read comments re: Chantix and my ADD kicks in full blast. The responses/comments are SO intense and words used are too big for me to comprehend. 'm just a dumb, old, NaNa w/H.S. education.

I was a closet smoker 1-3 cigs. per day. Grandchildren would be DEVASTATED if they knew NaNa smoked...so, it was time. PAST time.

Took two scripts back/back in '07. Was THRILLED when smoking was no longer pleasurable!! Holy smokes!!! Is it THIS easy to QUIT???!!!! Why didn't someone invent Chantix YEARS ago??!!!! Couldn't beLIEVE my luck!!!!!!!!!

And, had it ENDED there, I, TOO, would be singing Chantix' praises!! But, it DIDN'T. This is one, SNEAKY, POWERFUL, unPREDICTABLE drug!!! Once in your system, only God knows how and where you will land. Never in my wildest nightmare...would I have believed a little, blue pill could wreak such HAVOC!!!! But, it did...my life and world as I knew it...came to an end. My life was turned upside down and INSIDE OUT!!!

My dreams were no longer my own. Dreamt of deceased, loved ones coming to me at nite, HAPPY, HEALTHY, and BEGGNG me to come w/them!! Tried DESPERATELY to assure me my JOB WAS DONE HERE!!! My job which I've loved for 23 years and my husband of 37 yrs. would certainly have no problem replacing me. My daughters were busy raising their OWN children...wasn't sad, mad, glad...just flat. Totally flat and EXHAUSTED.

It seemed FUNNY to me to STILL be here... TAKING UP SPACE!! (That was my distorted/TWISTED thinking at that time! I was so tired of being confused...and TIRED!!!

Two hospital stays in '08 PLUS a psyche unit stay ROCKED ME TO THE CORE!!!! The stays were for: (1) severe chest pains (couldn't beLIEVE a person could FEEL such pain and not PASS out!!) Kept a week while receiving extensive testing from top to bottom, intraveneous fluids ad antibiotics, oxygen and morphine. Released w/diagnosis - - possible virus. (2) Three months later, drove car to rural area, sang to oldies on the way...picked up three bottles of sleeping pills and razors along the way.

Woke up six days later when being taken off a ventilator...surrounded by devastated, confused, family members. Do I even need to go into detail on the grovelling HELL its been for the past 4 years???!!! My trust in my doctor and pharma is destroyed/DISSOLVED. No longer do I trust ANYone involved in getting a new drug to market. Never before did I have a REASON to dig and look behind closed doors of big pharma, FDA, Doctors association w/both...etc. o...m....g. What a cold, GREEDY world we live in. I feel so stupid....naive...FOOLISH...for believing BLINDLY all of the above.

You almost GOT me Pfizer!!...and had I not survived, which is not a stretch...no one...but NO ONE...would've put Chantix in the equation!! Hell, I didn't even put it in there mySELF...it took an outsider to point out the possibility of the association!!!! I could've been 10 toes up...and my family would've chalked me up to NUTS!!!

May 14, 2012 - 2:42pm
Terri, I'm sorry for your trouble.

I don't mean to discount your experience in any way. But I think it is fair to point out that lots of people do quit smoking with the aid of Chantix and do not experience side effects similar to those you did.

And by and large, those people with a more successful experience don't show up on message threads like this one to tell the other side of the story: the surgery, pain, and early cancer death they did not experience because they successfully quit smoking.

May 14, 2012 - 4:19pm
True enough Harpy. But lots of people don't.
May 15, 2012 - 1:00pm
harpy is part of the re-emerging Church of Cold Turkey. It seems that many in the ivory towers of academia believe addicts should only have one treatment option - will power.

Addictions, whether smoking, alcohol, drugs, or others are very hard to break. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just decide to no longer be addicted? It is not realistic.

Quite frankly, the Church of Cold Turkey is arrogant, and they don't care or sympathize with those who suffer from addiction. The media loves the cold turkey advocates from Harvard and Johns Hopkins because they are a fantastic foil to the "evil" pharmaceutical industry.

Chantix is one of many options that can help people quit. The more options the better.

May 16, 2012 - 10:19am
help yourself to as many crutches as you need, Connect Four, it's a free-ish country. however, most of the people I've known who've beaten an addiction (and didn't go back) did so through will-power and support groups. whether it was smoking or heroin or caffeine or alcohol or something else. people were quitting addictions for hundreds of years before the pharmaceutical industry came along to "help." I'll tell my friends in AA that unbeknownst to them, they're really in the ivory towers of academia rather than the church basement, those cold-hearted bastards.
terri May 16, 2012 - 2:28pm
Harpy is right. Cold turkey IS the best way. I was a fool looking for an easy way out. Deep down, I know better than to look for a magic pill to do the work for me. I quit each time the rabbit died w/no problem. Quit for seven years at one point.

I don't believe my addiction is physical. I have one before work...one/two AFTER work...none at nite...and none on weekends cause I'm busy babysitting my grandkids!! This is how I've been smoking for years.

When Chantix hit the market...I hit the bricks. Was beYOND excited to get started!! Thought for SURE I'd kick it w/THIS!! I WANTED it to work. And, it DID. For awhile! Then, when I started reaching again, filled another script. THAT'S when my problems began. Something went TERRIBLY wrong this time around. Yes, it DID touch on the smoking receptors...which, was GREAT...but, it didn't STOP there. If it HAD, I, too, would be thanking Pfizer for their miracle pill!!

But, it didn't...and I can't. It was a long, slow process...yet very thorough. My dreams were so real...so vivid...so EVIL...I was so confused...and tired...it was getting difficult to decipher my state! I'm not lying, nor exaggerating. This little, blue pill OWNED me. I know I didn't question or doubt for a minute the people involved in getting this script filled. I TRUSTED my doctor, my pharmacist, big pharma, and MOST OF ALL, the FDA!!! Found out the hard way what a gullible, naive, FOOL I am!!

They HURT me! I paid dearly.. physically and psychologically! Ties have been irrtievably/PERMANENTLY broken/severed over the trauma that was brought on my family. No one can give me back my quiet, comfortable, respectable, position as matriarch of my family. Too many people were permanently scarred watching a vent breath for me for six day as I lay in a coma. There is no going back. What's done is done...and I'm extremely forunate and HAPPY to be here...but let me assure any doubters/naysayers out there...no one has your back...you are a number...and the sooner we all absorb that the better. Cold, GREEDY, CORRUPT, world we live in.

You can't make this stuff up.

May 18, 2012 - 9:27am
Professor Jonathan Deeks and Julian Higgins University of Birmingham UK Conclusions about bias in meta-analytical methods are not justified and potentially dangerous

In their meta-analytical investigation of rare adverse events associated with varenicline use for tobacco cessation, Prochaska and Hilton compared four different methods of meta-analysis (the Peto odds ratio, and the Mantel-Haenszel odds ratio, risk ratio and risk difference methods) and noted that they yielded different estimates of effect [1]. Such differences are not unexpected since the methods are all based on large sample asymptotic statistical theory, the assumptions of which are challenged when events are rare. The three Mantel-Haenszel methods also involve the use of an arbitrary numerical correction to avoid computational errors that occur when attempting to divide by zero. Prochaska and Hilton conclude “for rare outcomes, summary estimates based on absolute effects are recommended and estimates based on the Peto odds ratio should be avoided”. They provide five arguments to support this statement, none of which is convincing, some of which are misleading, and some of which are seriously flawed. To demonstrate that a result is biased, it is necessary to know what the correct result should be. This cannot be achieved in a case-study such as this, which simply compares four different analytical methods. The authors’ conclusion is not justified and is potentially dangerous. First, Prochaska and Hilton state “treatment effects based on relative risks always are as or less extreme than those based on odds ratios”. It is a mistake to compare the ‘extremeness’ of two different metrics in this way. Furthermore, when the outcomes are rare as they are in this example, odds ratios are in fact very close approximations to relative risks. Second they argue “relative statistics cannot be calculated for trials with zero events and therefore can bias summaries against the null hypothesis of no effect”. This reflects a common intuitive feeling that it is wrong to exclude any studies from a meta-analysis. However, if no events occur at all in a trial, the trial in itself conveys no information about the relative odds or risks of events between the two groups. A meta-analysis may be viewed as a weighted average of trial results, with weights reflecting the amount of information each study contains about the summary statistic. Allocating a trial with no information a zero weight is entirely appropriate and does not introduce bias. Third, they argue that relative statistics hide the impact of the effect, whereas risk differences most clearly convey the effect, using this to justify their meta-analysis of risk differences. We agree that absolute effect measures convey more useful information. However, the use of relative measures in a meta-analysis is not a barrier to re-expressing the treatment effect in absolute terms, e.g. as a number needed to treat to benefit or harm, or a risk difference. Prochaska and Hilton also cite Vandermeer and colleagues’ analysis of 1613 meta-analyses [2], claiming that they showed the Peto odds ratio to be particularly biased. Vandermeer in fact compared results of asymptotic methods with meta-analytical techniques based on ‘permutation’ or ‘exact’ methods. As with the current study, Vandermeer did not know what the true result was, so was unable to indicate that one method was biased, only that methods gave different results. Finally they imply that the Peto odds ratio method must be biased because it produces the most extreme values of odds ratios for the individual studies. This is a misunderstanding of the way in which the method should be applied – it is designed to compute an overall meta-analytical statistic and not for computation of estimates of odds ratios for individual studies. The strength of the Peto method is that it aggregates within-trial comparisons across trials in a way that avoids the need for the arbitrary addition of 0.5 events to some treatment groups in which no events were observed. It is this arbitrary addition that causes both the Mantel-Haenszel risk ratio and odds ratio to be similar, and the Mantel-Haenszel odds ratio to be smaller than the Peto odds ratio. The rigorous approach to understanding bias in statistical methods is to undertake simulation studies, where the investigators create data with known true treatment effects, apply the alternative statistical methods and examine how the estimates compare with the truth. Such studies can investigate bias in the treatment effect, the coverage of confidence intervals, the correctness of P-values, and the power that different methods have to detect differences. One of us undertook and reported such a study of statistical methods for meta-analysis of rare events, and found evidence that the methods to be recommended in practice exactly are the opposite to the recommendation of Prochaska and Hilton, with the Peto method being the least biased and most powerful in situations where event rates were around 1% [3]. Notably, whilst the Mantel-Haenszel risk difference method produced relatively unbiased estimates of treatment effects, the method was shown to be seriously limited in its ability to detect real differences, as its confidence intervals are wide, giving poor statistical power. It is thus unsuitable for meta-analysis of rare events, as it reduces the chance of real increases in rare adverse events being detected, with the subsequent possibility that patients continue to be exposed to harmful effects of some medications. [1] Prochaska J, Hilton J. Risk of serious adverse cardiovascular events associated with varenicline use for tobacco cessation: systematic review and meta-analysis. BMJ. 2012;344(e2856) [2] Vandermeer B, Bialy L, Hooton N, Hartling L, Klassen TP, Johnston BC, et al. Meta-analyses of safety data: a comparison of exact versus asymptotic methods. Stat Methods Med Res 2009;18:421-32. [3] Bradburn MJ, Deeks JJ, Berlin JA, Russell Localio A. Much ado about nothing: a comparison of the performance of meta-analytical methods with rare events. Stat Med 2007;26:53-77. Competing interests: None declared http://www.bmj.com/content/344/bmj.e2856/rr/585295

May 18, 2012 - 10:25am
Sonal, you wish to summarize for us earth people?
terri May 18, 2012 - 12:57pm
omg....I know Sonal is highly educated, respected and listened to. But, I was truly lost reading your comment.
scott May 18, 2012 - 7:48pm
I KNOW Chantix cause my heart attack . Read my story if you like at www.chantixheartattack.blogspot.com
May 18, 2012 - 7:55pm
Dr. Singh, I'm not a real statistics guy, and so the arguments about the relative merits of a Peto odds ratio vs a Mantel-Haenszel ratio go over my head.

But I can explain to my 6 year old why ignoring all the trial in which there were no cardiovascular events will lead to an overestimate of risk. And applying the CV event rate for patients with a history of CV disease to calculating the NNH for patients without such a history? I don't know how to comment on that without being uncivil, and thus disrespectful of the friendship between you and our host.

If you want to be a crusader for the common good, you have to serve as a crusader for the truth, first and foremost. Distorting the truth may seem like it serves a good cause in the short run, but it always causes problems eventually.

May 18, 2012 - 8:49pm
1. The approach they used is unsuitable for analysis of rare outcomes because it does not have the power or capacity to determine the outcome is linked to the drug. The precise reason why it is not only unsuitable to use for such data but also not recommended. 2. Since they do not know the "truth" ( whether chantix causes heart attacks"), their analysis cannot comment on the supremacy of one approach over another. Thus when one does not know the truth, one cannot 'overestimate it". 3. Or in more simple terms, you cant find the keys in your house because you forgot to switch on the light bulb.

This willl not be the first time or the last time when a drug is claimed to be absolved of a risk because the side effects(heart attacks etc) that occured in the trials, which were deemed to be good enough to get the drug on market went missing from analysis of the trials.

May 18, 2012 - 9:10pm
Scott, you cannot definitively say you had a heart attack without undergoing a challenge/dechallenge/rechallenge protocol. You have successfully completed the first two steps of the protocol in order to establish a presumptive relationship between Chantix and your putative heart attack.

However, in order to definitively prove cause and effect you may wish to complete the protocol by undergoing a repeat challenge with Chantix and see if you get another heart attack. Just make sure your life insurance is paid up first. If the outcome proves causality you might advance the cause of science by leading to more restrictive labeling for Chantix.

You'll be a real Champ(ix).

SCott May 19, 2012 - 8:20am
Industry Insider , Chantix was approved by the FDA on the basis of five studies, all funded by PFIZER and published in July and August of 2006. The designers of these studies seem to have pulled out all the stops in their efforts to stack the deck in Pfizer’s favor.

As many as one-third of prospective study participants were turned away for conditions including but not limited to a history of cancer, cardiovascular disease, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, a history of alcohol or drug abuse, major depression, panic disorder, bipolar disorder, systolic blood pressure greater than 150 or diastolic pressure greater than 95, a body mass index of less than 15 or higher than 38, weight less than 45kg, those with "clinically significant abnormalities in the screening laboratory values…” The list goes on and on.

If the trials were done like they were suppose to be done,before the drug made its debut people wouldn't need scientific proof that it dose or dose NOT cause these side effects.All I do know is . If there was a risk for me taking this drug , I would have not taken it. I don't care how miniscule of a risk it was.I did however NEED to know their was a CV risk.

May 20, 2012 - 7:53pm
When you exclude populations that have relative associations with nicotine addiction. It does leave one a bit curious.
Scott May 21, 2012 - 7:58am
I completely agree Leftthatpharma
scott May 22, 2012 - 5:15pm
So as far as Chantix heart attack litigation goes, with every study having different findings, whats next ? How many more studies have to be done before people realize this is a horrible drug. I am no scientist, but if it walks like a duck , quacks like a duck, its a duck. In my opinion as I have said in other posts a risk is a risk.
May 22, 2012 - 6:17pm
Scott, I see you are still posting. Guess you didn't take the Chantix rechallenge.
scott May 22, 2012 - 8:46pm
I'm sure it would be a much bigger loss to society if you took it. I know what it did to me and 4 people I work with. Why don't you try it Industrial insider, then you could be the ....... what did you call it ? Champ(ix)
May 30, 2012 - 10:43am
I agree w/you, Scott. On every level. I WISH the naysayers would take Chantix themSELVES!! If THAT'S what it would take to PROVE the ugliness of this drug...then, TAKE it!! Just be sure to warn those around you. Because when the spiral begins (and it WILL)...it's only fair that those closest to you, know.

Had I NOT taken Chantix mySELF, and endured the painful side effects...I'm sure I, TOO, would'v had my doubts about the VALIDITY of some of the horror stories told. But, I did...and unfortunately, can vouch, this drug is for real. The side effects DISTURBINGLY real. People don't go to the trouble and expense of getting this script w/hopes of suffering debilitating side effects. They WANT it to work!! And, it DOES touch on the smoking receptors...but, it doesn't STOP there...and THAT'S where the trouble and confusion comes in.

If Pfizer has ANY conscience, they'd PULL this drug...NOW!!!!!!

Scott May 31, 2012 - 1:12pm
I totally agree Terri. What a better way for a company to cover up side effects. Smokers already have CV risks and quitting smoking is a stressful, very mental thing as well. Why not make millions off of people that are desperate to quit,and blame the side effects on their life styles.
Jun 30, 2012 - 9:29pm
Does anyone know of a law firm that is willing to take on a Chantix-cardiovascular law suit?
Jul 9, 2012 - 7:24pm
Bonnie there are a ton of them out there. I cant leave any links on here but there is a pile of proof and there are lawyers that DO take on CV clients. I have one myself.
teri Jul 12, 2012 - 5:37pm
Scott, my first hospital stay in January, '08 was due to possible heart attack. In the middle of the nite my heart started beating so fast and so hard I couldn't get my breath!! I always thought a heart attack would be the easiest way to die when the time came....but, I was WRONG!!

Along w/the horrendous chest pains...powerful, agonizing STOMACH spasms started...so strong they felt like contractions...then my head started throbbing...it was bizarre. I never knew a person could stay CONSCIENCE and endure such pain!! Was praying I would pass out!!! Took all my strength and several tries to get the words out to my husband to call an ambulance.

I was kept a week and underwent every test possible from head/toe. They couldn't contribute/tie this whole painful ordeal to ANYthing. They were baffled!! Put me on oxygen, morphine, antibiotic drip and catheter.

The only other times I was in the hospital was when I had my tonsils out at 5 and gave birth twice!! To be hospitalized TWICE PLUS psyche unit w/in a 4 month time frame DID rock me to the core. The point I'm trying to make is IF YOU FELT LIKE YOU WERE HAVING A HEART...I BELIEVE YOU!!! I REALLY DO!!! I FELT IT, TOO!!! THIS DRUG HAS GOT TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jul 12, 2012 - 8:30pm
Terri , I did have a heart attack , stent ,heart damage and all. No if and or buts about it. 40 years old,athletic,cholesterol 155, No high BP.I was a smoker until I took chantix.I know what my Dr.s say and I know what I feel. So good luck to you all.
Jul 23, 2012 - 11:03pm
Scott...The law firms are still posting that they will take on cardiovascular Chantix cases , however when I contact them they simply say that they are no longer going to pursue them. It seems that many of them dropped their cases when the steering committee for the MDL decided that they were only going to look at the suicide cases. I believe Pfizer still has a warning on the box regarding heart....
Jul 24, 2012 - 10:59am
Bonnie, I assure you. Fears & Nachawati were taking them as of a month ago.